Off the top of my head, I can think of 7-8 divorced couples in our church right now (and we only have around 150 in regular attendance) The influx of these falsely converted pagans is one reason Roman Catholicism came to have so many idolatrous and pagan beliefs. In recent years the news media has called doctrinally unsound church such as the Charismatics and Pentecostals fundamentalists. Follow us on Pinterest: To distinguish oneself from every other believer in the Body of Christ by either a doctrine, a practice, or a person is not scriptural, as the apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians. Some more deception I would like to expose are these IFB web sites. Still others rail about the same sin constantly, possibly out of their own guilt. I just wanted you to know that I have made the decision to leave the IFB. Thus the words Independent and Fundamental have been added by many Baptist churches to further identify themselves as truly Bible believing churches and to show a distinction between themselves and Baptist churches who were not following Gods word. Member churches are forbidden to affiliate with any denomination, and the fellowship, administered by annually elected trustees, cannot . KJB,UNAFFILIATED. I do hope that your eyes will be opened up soon because keeping the law will not grant you entrance into heaven. Remember new testament christians are never compelled to give mandatory gifts, if you have been taught that, you have been taught wrong. I think you are confusing ceremonial law with moral law. https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html. For example when Jesus said to not store up treasures on earth where they would persih but in HeavenI believe Hes refering to at least in part some Godly endeavors (that often take money)that we do for His namesake. p.s. when I said I hear a lot that the IFB has strict dress standards. It is also true that we have a responsibility to tell people about the gospel message, especially those who we have contact with. @Fran Many Anabaptists churches were strong New Testament churches believing and following the Word of God. Youve done nothing to, directly compare doctrine and practices using scripture to make the assertion which is correct.. Benedict states that the English Roman Catholics in 1535, put to death twenty two Baptists for heresies. Thats why Paul advocated free will offerings (see 2 Corinthians 9). The New Testament teaches that Christ is the head of the church,(Eph. The heading of the website is true. Please note that this presented no problem for this first Baptist church in America. We are a local New Testament church reaching the Phoenix area with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Actually what should have been first was the erroneous teaching that water baptism has anything at all to do with ones salvation, it does not! 6. I already estb basis of why Tithing I believe is good (must read all post under Lynne). I found a load of stuff about people who claim certain Calvarly Chapels misueded them & did not know Bible & also on ehere in Maryland has a onliune tithe on website! Nope, dont see that. These true Baptists added the adjectives Fundamental and Independent to their name in order that they not be identified with the false practices and teaching of the doctrinally unsound churches using the Baptist name. I think most people would agree with me on this. -Ray, My church preaches those five points and we are an IFB church. Christs death ushured in teh New Covenant where ceremonial law for the remission of sin is replaced with grace and mercy. Our Beliefs JESUS CHRIST Jesus Christ is at the center of everything. I grew up in a Catholic church and boarding school, then was taken out and placed into Lutheran surroundings. They direct their own affairs under the authority of the New Testament Scriptures, free from the outside interference. Patrick was born in Scotland in 360 AD and sold into slavery at age sixteen and carried to Ireland. You either comply or you are thrown out. They practice the Biblical teachings of separation as stated in Ephesians 5:11, which says, Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. , Oak Harbor, Washington 98277). The line of English churches that can be traced, who called themselves Baptists, began in 1610 in Holland. The natural question then to ask is, What makes a person a true Baptist? In examining the history of Baptists and determining what makes up a genuine and true Baptist, five distinctives should be noted. Later in history, around 600 AD, Austin, Catholic monk, was sent to Britain by Pope Gregory the Great. In 1606, after nine months of soul-searching and study of the New Testament he was convinced that the doctrines and practices of the Church of England were not Biblical, and thus he resigned as priest and left the church. Select church size. He refused to wear the robes of his church office, and refused to let unsaved people take the Lords Supper. Not just the New Testament. watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it Thus, the name independent means that the church patterns itself after the New Testament example and stands alone under the authority of the Bible. It tried to explain and figure out why IFB churches seem to be drying up and closing their doors. We have the personal presence of the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us, why would we want to follow rules that were intended for people living in the power of the flesh? It is the clergymen who are affiliated. The acapella voices were very beautiful, and I knew she would have enjoyed hearing them. What Jesus is talking about in Matthew 5 is ceremonial law. Please do not take this the wrong waybut coming from someone who I think is more objective (i was not raised in a IFB, just joined, been a part of non-denm & other denm fellowships), well here goes in love: it almost seems like you have an axe to grind with IFB Church. The Dutch colony of New York for a time persecuted Baptists within its territories. But it is for these very reasons that I and millions of other Americans cant understand it. That saintly old woman in the pew may be depending upon her infant baptism to get her to heaven. He believed the only way to recover was to form a new church based on the Bible. It is well also to note that these five distinctives are traits also of the true New Testament church! . Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. I liken this to attending a Bible study without your Bible. Look at Ezekiel 33. I believe that the King James Version is the inspired, preserved Word of God for the English speaking people Even some TV evangelists have referred to themselves as being fundamentalist. Adulterous generally hide their actions. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. Robert Fry - Pastor of Bible Baptist Church in Plattsburgh, NY Deception; 75. It seemed that if some people (which were severalactually almost all with very few exceptions) were given any place of position within the church, they responded with a sole purpose for having the pastor pleased with them, and definitely staying in his face about ideas which truly seemed more personal preference than such ideas of benefit. I, for one, am glad you wont post here again after that comment, but I hope you will at least read this, although Im not holding my breath. Thanks for your response. teaching that all sex is dirty, etc..), I see no sense in throwing the baby out with the bath water. An interesting read. WHEN AND WHERE WAS THE FIRST RECORDED BAPTIST CHURCH IN HISTORY. Although, many Protestants returned in part to a belief in the Bible as their authority for their faith and practice, not one of them EVER completely left all the doctrinal errors and false teachings of the apostate Roman Catholic church. I think that you should go kill your children. Its derived from two possible origins: 1. He strongly believed in separation of church and state and upheld the principles of soul liberty. Here is the Scripture Im refering to: In Luke 11:42 he says, But woe to you Pharisees! I have never believed in obedience to a pastor just obedience to Gods Word I cannot know. Im sure you realize all this, but I thought I would throw my voice in it. Any church fellowship that encourages avoiding another Christian denomination/fellowship, even if they uphold & believe these, b/c they are not of the same denomination are in gross error & a cult. This was the best onemembers in our church raise hands, say amen, clap after special music (GASP! (For a explanation of the biblical role of deacons please go to http://bible-truth.org/deacon.html, The pastor of the church is called by majority vote of the congregation. I read what you wrote, thats why I replied with what I wrote. Well originally Abraham initiated giving a tenth of his to the priest in the Melchizdeak order which was a type of Christ I believe. Some have pointed to the Anabaptists as the examples of early Baptist churches. 451 Likes, 8 Comments - Spencer Smith (@spencersmith312) on Instagram: "I was saved at 18 at an independent, fundamental baptist church. It is one made up of baptized believers organized in a local congregation for fellowship, teaching and evangelism. Independent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such things as evangelism. If you think women ought to wear pants, thats your prerogative. The pastor followed up with me with a long phone call, and that is when we began to discuss the baptism issue, he was very cordial and we simply agreed to disagree, which is probably what you and I will have to do. For example, we had Dish installed in our home a few weeks ago. Its the phraseology itself that one calls into question as being logical or illogical. Have been over twenty years, and have attended probably ten or more IFB churches here in Ohio and elsewhere, and I have never met an IFB pastor who didnt include scriptures from the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, in his sermons. At any rate, logical fallacies dont need to be in or out of context to be called logical fallacies. Anyway at least once a year we set up a tent and have an old-fashioned revival. Furthermore I believe it involved religion. So you made assumptions based on very little. Yes we only use KJV (I perosnally like it better myself because I like the Shakespeareanesque vernacular versus modern but thats a personal choice). Thier is nothing harmful in regard sto relating to other denominations if ny that you mean fellowships that are Christian. To hold to the secessionist position takes the authority away from the New Testament and places it in the hands of man. But God knows his heart. // ]]> Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, 42. You dont study enough. There he became the pastor of the Puritan church. 5) shun folks that have left the church He was much displeased with the Puritan theocracy. The Independent Baptist believes that to join with churches who teach and practice false doctrine is condone and even show approval of Biblical error and that all doctrinal error is sin. The local pastor is the shepherd (Heb. The first church was founded there in 1688, in Middletown and was made up of many who had fled persecution in the other colonies. He preserved His word and the Word preserved a true Gospel witness during every moment of history since Pentecost. In 1678, shortly after the church had erected a new building, the Puritan controlled government nailed its doors shut and forbade anyone under penalty of the law to enter or worship there. This is known as the Argumentum ad populum fallacy. Christians under the grace economy give out thankfulness to God for what Christ has done for them, without any compulsion. I am not in favor of tactics that play on peoples emotions so as to secure a visible result. This directory, containing close to 10,000 churches and counting, is aimed at getting you the information you need when you need it. If I wanted to tithe I wouldnt know where to go, because tithes were paid to a levitical priest. Benedict in his history of the Baptists states the Gospel was preached in Britain within sixty years of the Lords return to heaven. The Puritans were dissenters from the Church of England. I can relate i was in a IFB church, glad to be out. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. So, I guess we are not all as rigid as one would believe from some comments. As long as they go to a God fearing church that believes in Jesus Christ and they themselves are not rebelling against God then it would not hurt my feelings if they went to Southern Baptist or Methodist churches. First I would disagree that The Church of Christ teaches first century, new testament doctrine. They are the only group into modern times whose churches were founded on the Scriptures alone and not on the traditions or works of some man. What does this have to do with our discussion? He soon embraced Separatists ideas and decided to leave England. 1. A logical fallacy stands alone whether in or out of context. Still today, many Protestants see the Lords Supper as a sacrament, having to some degree saving properties or giving some spiritual benefit. No church in the NT took that label. Hope that last wasnt too much personal info. If someone leaves the church and lives a worldly life style (no church or fellowship with Christ, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, fornication, homosexuality, etc.) Knolleys was imprisoned many times and suffered at the hands of the State Church. Nothing comforted. In the simplest of terms a true Baptist assembly is one which follows the New Testament as his sole authority for his faith and practice. If other will share. I appreciate your stand for the cause of Christ, and remember always to rely on the blessed Word of God to lead and guide you, there will be times perhaps, when someone you really look up to is promoting ideas that are not biblical and yet they try to use the bible to convince you of their veracity. The center of Baptist activity in the colonies was in the Philadelphia area, and Baptists held regular general meetings of the churches for devotional and evangelistic purposes there. Omissions? My brother attends an IFB church. It is not historically correct to identify Baptists as Catholic protestors who left the Roman church. I know of no place in scripture where a tithe is ever money! You cannot read psalms w/out seeing those raised hands. The best illustration of this point can be made this way. Baptists Briders, infer they can trace their history back to John the Baptist who was the first Baptist. Also in regards to the restcommon sense is you give according to how you deal with your values ,etc. Examples: Billy Graham, Promise Keepers. He then baptized himself (which is not biblical) and then the others of his congregation. They have a 1st Amendment right to speak their mind, but that doesnt mean shouting down a preacher at a military funeral. You CANNOT be loving either if you are refusing to render unto the Lord that which is his, and this includes tithing. But this article simply exposes the Baptist system as just another denomination among tens of thousands. Everyone knew this was a farce. In 1645, he formed a Baptist church in London. List your KJV Bible Believing Church for FREE! It holds high the saving Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, as revealed in the New Testament and an unwavering commitment to carrying out the Great Commission, that is, to teach everywhere the truth of Gods Word. Some formed new churches and called themselves Baptists to make it clear that they believed and followed the New Testament. Many Baptists were executed by the newly formed Church of England during what is called the Protestant inquisition. In this sense, any church which founds itself strictly on the New Testament teachings, is a true and Biblical church, even if it existed in time, only yesterday. Have a look at Matthew 15. I still attend a tiny (20-30 on Sunday) Baptist Church, and yes it is IFB. These are the distinctives which separate Baptists from all Protestants, any organized church or Christian cult. PEOPLE are the problem! Shortly after that, because of his doctrinal preaching, he was forced to leave Salem and went for a short time to Plymouth. In fact, I have no close friends that attend the same church as me. In only a few years however, the church had lost all but ten members to the Mennonites and other groups in Holland. The sole authority for any true church is Gods Word and not it founder, or its heritage. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. These worldly churches still call themselves Baptists but in fact they do not believe or practice what true Baptists have historically believed and more importantly what the Word of God says. What we believe at Fundamental Baptist Church about Jesus, the Bible, and the Church. I thought that this was the passage you were referring to. I think Calvary Chapel churches are great. http://www.wvec.com/news/local/INSIDE-A-NAKED-CHURCH-85062392.html. 1) strict adherence to one version of the bible Independent Baptist Directory of Churches. They do not accept that authority was given to any particular man, pope, prophet, group or church on earth to be the means of the salvation of men. No new testament christian anywhere in scripture, that I know of, is compelled to give a tithe. Shady Acres Baptist Church August Campmeeting; All purchases through OUR BOOKSTORE & RESOURCES TAB cover the cost of operating the KJV church directory thereby making the site totally FREE and never asking for donation help. Bob So true, the subject that I simply couldnt justify (there were several) with my old fundy churchs teaching with scripture, was tithing. Most of the Anabaptists successors became the Mennonites, Amish and Quakers. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23) Priesthood of the Believer. We should stand out because we are different. 78. Updates? The Great Awakening stirred religious interests in the colonies and a reported great revival took place. In my civilian life..and please do pray for our military..I am very honored to serve as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge in Jacksonville (FL). Im made of dirt, but God is gonna let my neighbor go to Hell because the dirt-clod next door didnt give him a Chick tract!! He was talking about ceremonial law not moral law I think you are confusing those two. (P.S. Some years ago when I was attempting to find another church for my family to attend so as to escape a spiritually abusive IFB, I found myself at a Church of Christ that had split from the large COC in town. (II Peter 1:20) Baptist believe you do not have to be a Baptist in order to be saved and have eternal life, but a person must believe the Gospel as revealed in the New Testament. This is Bible 101 stuff. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament. But we need YOUR help to make this project successful! In 1638, he landed in Boston and settled for a short time in Piscataway (now Dover) in New Hampshire. No one I have ever talked to or debated can show me that money is ever to be considered a tithe. These people give Jesus and Christianity overall a black eye every time they go to a military funeral or any other event they have absolutely no respect for. when the apostle Peter was fishing he stripped and was naked while he was fishing (John 21:7). KJV Bibles are the best translations because they do not take out the blood of Jesus from scripture as the other versions along with other things. KJV Church Directory. p.s. Im referring to a mistake I made in my fairly long comment, which you may not have seen yet, once you do youll understand I was correcting a statement in my next to last paragraph. Two champions of religious liberty were the Virginians Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry. So Im guessing that pretty much every Church other than Ivor Church has a dress code. The form is submitted along with the recommendations of other Calvary Chapel clergymen. The pastor is a self-taught, good man. They will not engage in joint meetings, or evangelistic endeavors, with Protestants, Catholics, or other doctrinally unsound church groups, who do not hold to the fundamental teachings of the New Testament. King James (KJV) Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches in Arkansas. I agree! You place too much value on modern denominational history. Sounds like maybe you are in a pretty good church. Also, and Im not sure how to word this question properly, but during the building of the original NT church as described in Acts and further in the rest of the NT, wouldnt they have had to subscribe to some form of outside authority and control in order for the church to be formed? You know, when you really dig into many religions you find much of mans tradition. I would like comment on each trait if you dont mind: You will find, to the left, a tags cloud as well as a category drop down menu. Right down to exactly a tenth. There were however, many Baptists who loved the Word of God and held true to it and refused to abandon teaching the New Testament. Some IFB are good fellowships, some Plymouth Brethren Open) are good fellowships..etc. He did not fail to share truth although He was not yet crucifiedso likewise I argue that since He said it should not have been left undoneHe meant what He says as He shared the fuller meaning I believe of the Laws. Oopsin 1st paragraphh in one sentence I actually meant something more like this: the Law is fullfillednow we can truly do good works that are pleasing to the Lord for the sins are washed away with & following the Law to make us right, which it never could but only point to our need for redemption, is fullfilled. And I dont study my Bible enough and would say no one does. I have gone to Dayspring in Wisconsin and Hillcrest in El Paso and both have apps if you want to check them out. Williams graduated from Cambridge University in 1627, and was apparently ordained in the Church of England. It is difficult to trace Baptist churches down through history. Its ugly and frustrating. The first is the United Church of Christ and secondly is the one I refer to, Independent Churches of Christ. In other words, when the Bible speaks, the words have a literal meaning and that it the meaning God intended. Unfortunately I am relatively new to this denomination; I do not know how much authority they have over my individual church. History is clear there is no other denomination that has so loved and been faithful to Gods Word as has the Baptists.
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