I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. It requires a special approach. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". @Bongo. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. You have a special floor. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. Photos would be helpful. You might want to do some reading regarding matt finish. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. I also have some design software that may help with your need. It doesn't make sense. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. Imagine if that would have been quartz? However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. We are building next year and making decisions now. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. professional finishes are sold in gallons only. Streetshoe by basics + their stain line. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. Skip the 'money saving'. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). Floors look VERY good! That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? Not a one. One other question. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. The matte helps scratches blend. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. Thank you for your input. I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. Thank you. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. And like all things "time is money". There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Which possibly suggests installation issue. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. It was applied Saturday morning. For a house your size and a $50k budget. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. ! The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. . When I get to see them, Ill post pics. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Kitchen of the Week: Brick, Wood and Clean White Lines, Kitchen of the Week: A Designer's Budget Wood-and-White Makeover, New This Week: 3 Beautifully Balanced White Kitchens, Kitchen of the Week: White, Wood, Gray and a Backsplash Surprise, 5 Countertops That Look Beautiful in a White Kitchen, Kitchen of the Week: Fans of Traditional Style Go For a Mad Men Look. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. Is that really that difficult? @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? It still should not come off. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. (Just read the dog drool threads.) Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. Thank you! Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. Not always as expected. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Here are some of my samples. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) Thanks again! I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Do you have high ceilings ? And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. Its for a new build. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. Rift sawn white oak like we are referencing is not common at all in our location. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Would love to see finished product! I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. It still should not come off. You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. (Side shower walls are white). WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? @skru33 Thanks! They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). @tkgriff Love the floor. The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. The coating should not come up. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. I knew this was IT. Sigh. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. The supplier may help you out. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) You only need an inch. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. It is the way it is normally done. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. 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I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. new and it will be white oak common # 1. Intense seal will cast yellowing. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. It must be sanded down and done again. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. I think I would have done semi-gloss as a base and the matte as a final top coat or maybe satin as a top coat. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. And you want to have 3 coats total. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Thanks! Which one did you end up going with? Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. Never to be heard from again. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? The other two will give you more color. But I miss a slightly shiny floor. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. WebInformacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: qhhsubiquity.com, +13012001475, +13012001768, +13012001300 The Ubiquity The student news site of Quartz Hill High School Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? The coating should not come up. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. It could be as low as $2/sf. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? White streaks in floor. I absolutely love the floors. Source: elsesun.com. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. They did a great job. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? The correct answer should be "nothing at all". white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Also, Durasupreme got less than good reviews online. We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. The coating should not come up. The pillow is from our sofa. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. Apply the second coat. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. Sample made on raw white oak during the decision process: two coats of Bona NordicSeal, top-coated with Bona Traffic Naturale. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. They look closer to the raw wood tone. Could my response be taken incorrectly? This is not designed to be the tough outer layer Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. That doesn't sound like what you are after. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them.